April 18, 2012
so-treu: comicallyvariant: pancakesforone: flavorpill: thepermanentwave: We are so excited to be featured alongside a bunch of other amazing organizations in this week’s Time Out NY! Read the feature! Worth mentioning that blonde girl who looks like Robyn is our very own Sophie.  So your “very own Sophie” thinks that appropriating the black power fist for white lady causes is a fine thing to do? Good to know. Maybe I’m bias because I intern in the same office where Sophie works,  but as far as I know the fist doesn’t belong exclusively to the black power movement - in fact that particular image has been around a while, and appears about 11 or 12 times on the first page of the google search for “feminist symbol.” And yes, mainstream feminism is far from intersectional, but Permanent Wave seems fairly open to issues that lie beyond the straight-white-cis perspective.  Personally, I associate the fist more with solidarity than with any particular movement. Of course I’m by no means an expert and again, I’m probably bias, so what does everyone else think?   well, seeing as how the fist as a symbol associated SPECIFICALLY with the Black Power Movement PRECEDED the feminist movement by a significant amount of time, yes. you are wrong. very. Fist symbol for solidarity predates Black Power Movement—was used by labor unions and such. The black fist is specifically associated with the Black Power Movement, though. The glyph of a fist inside the “woman” symbol is usually red and didn’t start being used by white feminists until 1969 or 70—well after the BPM and probably very much appropriating the BPM use of the symbol.

so-treu:

comicallyvariant:

pancakesforone:

flavorpill:

thepermanentwave:

We are so excited to be featured alongside a bunch of other amazing organizations in this week’s Time Out NY! Read the feature!

Worth mentioning that blonde girl who looks like Robyn is our very own Sophie. 

So your “very own Sophie” thinks that appropriating the black power fist for white lady causes is a fine thing to do? Good to know.

Maybe I’m bias because I intern in the same office where Sophie works,  but as far as I know the fist doesn’t belong exclusively to the black power movement - in fact that particular image has been around a while, and appears about 11 or 12 times on the first page of the google search for “feminist symbol.” And yes, mainstream feminism is far from intersectional, but Permanent Wave seems fairly open to issues that lie beyond the straight-white-cis perspective. 

Personally, I associate the fist more with solidarity than with any particular movement. Of course I’m by no means an expert and again, I’m probably bias, so what does everyone else think?  

well, seeing as how the fist as a symbol associated SPECIFICALLY with the Black Power Movement PRECEDED the feminist movement by a significant amount of time, yes. you are wrong. very.

Fist symbol for solidarity predates Black Power Movement—was used by labor unions and such. The black fist is specifically associated with the Black Power Movement, though. The glyph of a fist inside the “woman” symbol is usually red and didn’t start being used by white feminists until 1969 or 70—well after the BPM and probably very much appropriating the BPM use of the symbol.

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  3. thirstinmore reblogged this from thepermanentwave and added:
    don’t frack it up.
  4. mikkipedia reblogged this from so-treu and added:
    Fist symbol for solidarity predates Black Power Movement—was used by labor unions and such. The black fist is...
  5. amstibovvered said: i’m also intrigued.
  6. bilgerat reblogged this from so-treu and added:
    They are trying really hard to defend the appropriation of the black power fist. Really hard.
  7. mothsinamoshpit reblogged this from likeapairofbottlerockets and added:
    this is my favorite. SOPHIE YOU MADE YOUR FIRST DOCTOR FRIEND.
  8. frank-e-fighting-words reblogged this from biyuti and added:
    Wow, white women say shit that’s so embarrassingly stupid I get embarrassed like I’m white.
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  10. judyxberman reblogged this from likeapairofbottlerockets and added:
    Education.
  11. likeapairofbottlerockets reblogged this from proudlybigotedmisandrist and added:
    Lol @ me being accused of appropriating something that has been a (not racially determined) feminist symbol since the...
  12. proudlybigotedmisandrist reblogged this from flavorpill and added:
    So your “very own Sophie” thinks that appropriating the black power fist for white lady causes is a fine thing to do?...
  13. plittly reblogged this from thepermanentwave and added:
    I wrote this! And I am...happy that several people
  14. heartbarf reblogged this from thepermanentwave and added:
    This article doesn’t even get THAT far into all the rad stuff Permanent Wave does, but it’s pretty great!
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